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Old 10-11-2004, 11:17 AM   #11
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Default Re: Buell XB-9R 4th in AMA FX

Well there is no doubt that Mr. Ciccotto is a great rider to get that bike to 4th. That, and a lot of help from the rules and H-D (unofficially of course).

I do think that if they get a V-rod motor in it, with the proper mods, they might even get the missing top speed, thats been hampering them on the bigger tracks (without sacrificing the cornering or low end acceleration).

Plus it would make a better street bike, IMHO.

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Old 10-11-2004, 11:18 AM   #12
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Default Re: Buell XB-9R 4th in AMA FX

woohoo fourth place? granted it's not bad for two less cylinders and no radiator...but 4th place is still not first place.
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:21 AM   #13
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Default XB Buell with a Ducati 999 Engine

Interesting comments about the Buell engine. I ride a Buell XB12S with race kit daily and found the contrast between it and the new DucatiÂ’s very interesting. I test rode a 2004 Ducati ST3 and 999 yesterday at Firebird raceway here in Phoenix AZ and I couldnÂ’t help but wonder what it would have been like riding my Buell powered with the Ducati 999 engine on the same track. HumÂ….
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:30 AM   #14
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Default Re: Buell XB-9R 4th in AMA FX

JB, I doubt that the Beull engine in AMA FX is very much like that which we would find in a stock, street going bike. I would also venture to guess that there are other factors as well (rider, track setup. etc...) which contributes to this scenario. I don't mean to take anything away from Cicotto's achievement, nor do I mean to denigrate the Buell motorcycle especially since I feel fondness for them, but think about it JB, wouldn't you like to see a MO' better engine in the bike?
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:35 AM   #15
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Default Re: Buell XB-9R 4th in AMA FX

Nice to see these results. Remember, there is a world out there beyond the UJM.



I have owned a Buell now for about four years, and it is a wonderful motorcycle. Not the fastest, but nowhere near the slowest either. Comfortable and solid.



One other note - I like all bikes, but the reason I subscribe to MO is the fact that they give every manufacturer a chance. Try reading Motorcyclist if you ride something made in America - all they do is bash Buell and H-D. Cycle World and MO are the only real "fair and balanced" road testers out there.



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Guess everyone will still complain if Ciccotto finally gets on to the podium......
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:01 PM   #16
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Default Re: Buell XB-9R 4th in AMA FX

I din't think you'll find too many stock components on the I-4 bikes either.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:09 PM   #17
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Default Re: XB Buell with a Ducati 999 Engine

Thanks for the owner feedback. I like the Buells, I just feel that the motor is a drawback, considering the slow reving nature of the beast (relative to the newer designed water cooled vtwins). I think it would be an interesting test to plop a 999 (or RC51, or TL1000) motor into a Buell chasis and see what they say about that combination.

I would also like to see Mr. Buell apply some of that foward think design to a new ST rig. Could come up with some interesting solutions to the Sport or Touring gap that seems to exits in the current crop of bikes out there.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:13 PM   #18
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Default Re: Buell XB-9R 4th in AMA FX

Nope, I love big rumbly twins, esp. ones that need nothing but their oil changed now and then.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:16 PM   #19
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Maybe he can win the "Daytona 200" next season. Then i would laugh. I agree 4th is not the same as winning, but for all those who characterize the Buells as way off the pace, well obviously it just ain't the case.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:24 PM   #20
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Default It was on top once against the 600's. I was there.

6/17/2002

Buell Happy With F-USA Sportbike Win At Loudon



From a press release:



Buell Firebolt Scores first national roadrace victory



Eric Wood Tops Formula USA Sportbike Field at 79th Annual Loudon Classic



Loudon, NH (June 16, 2002) - Eric Wood rode the new Buell Firebolt XB9R to its first national roadrace victory in the Formula USA Honda Pro Oils Sportbike final held at New Hampshire International Speedway. The race was WoodÂ’s first outing aboard the Kosco Buell/Innovative Motorcycle Research Firebolt, and the first appearance of the team in the highly competitive horsepower and weight restricted class.



"This was a great start for the Firebolt," said Wood, of Mansfield, Mass. "We just got this bike two weeks ago and ran a club race last weekend to warm it up. The Firebolt has a lot of potential and weÂ’re only going to get stronger as the season goes on."



Facing a 45-bike field filled with Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki riders, Wood was running a strong second when race leader Scott Greenwood (Suzuki) faltered on lap 19 of the 20-lap feature. Wood stormed into the lead and beat Suzuki riders Michael Barnes and Larry Pegram to the checkered flag.



"The BuellÂ’s tractability and drive off the corners really worked for me at Loudon," said Wood. "In some turns I was able to put the Buell in places where the four-cylinder bikes couldn't go. The Firebolt has the chassis dynamics of a Grand Prix bike, and the smooth power delivery of the V-Twin engine was really easy on the back tire. As the race worn on, I think my tire was holding up better and I was able to pull away from the field."



"The Firebolt was designed to be the best backroad bike ever," said Erik Buell, Chairman and Chief Technical Officer of Buell Motorcycle Company. "Loudon is a technically challenging track, just like the backroads we designed the Firebolt to dominate on. My congratulations go out to Eric Wood and the entire Kosco Buell and Innovative Motorcycle Research Team."



The Formula USA Sportbike class features production-based motorcycles limited to a maximum of 115 horsepower and a minimum of 365 pounds. The Buell Firebolt XB9R is powered by a fuel-injected 984cc V-Twin
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