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Old 07-26-2004, 09:42 AM   #11
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Default Re: AMA Announces Proposed 2005 Superbike Rule Changes

I think it has more to do with weight than horsepower. MotoGP, with the exception of Nakano, hasn't had this problem, on bikes with way more horsepower than AMA Superbikes or Superstock bikes.



Either way, something needs to be done, and quickly.
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:46 AM   #12
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Default Re: AMA Announces Proposed 2005 Superbike Rule Changes

I doubt that the AMA guys are going to add another race to SSport races ($$$). But that was a Fluster Cluck. Their is almost no way to eliminate "Factory" teams from any of the classes. The best idea I have heard of is to have "claiming" races, where stock parts of anyones bike can be purchased by anyone else. That means, black boxes, brakes, suspension, etc. . . could be bought by anyone. No factory is going to put its trick stuff at risk of getting into privateers.
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Old 07-26-2004, 10:03 AM   #13
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Default Shove your "___ for dummies" line up your ass, you whiny *****

Most, if not all of the tire failures haven't happened in hot weather. Daytona this year was only about 75-80 degrees during the tire tests when DiSalvo and Spies were pitched off.



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Old 07-26-2004, 11:06 AM   #14
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Default sounds like a DUNLOP problem to me...

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7/21/2004

Updated Post: Picotte Predicted Second Dunlop Failure After Rash Of Tire Problems At Mosport

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According to series boss Colin Fraser, points leader Pascal Picotte predicted a second catastrophic Dunlop rear tire failure during a riders' meeting held at Mosport, following Jeff Williams' top-gear fall on Saturday of the double-header Canadian Superbike weekend.

True to Picotte's prediction, the rear tire on Steve Crevier's GSX-R1000 exploded during Sunday's Superbike race, throwing him off his bike at an estimated 170 mph.

Riders encountered a rash of issues with Dunlop 17-inch slicks at Mosport, with Williams, Picotte and Crevier all pitting for new rear tires after encountering abnormal tire vibration during practice.

Race organizers were so concerned with Picotte's prediction that they instructed Dunlop riders to install new tires during an early red-flag break in Sunday's Superbike race. Although Crevier's crew did that, his tire failed during the restarted race.

According to Fraser, the tires that failed are being sent to Dunlop R&D headquarters in England for analysis. Fraser told Roadracingworld.com that Dunlop officials have denied charges made by Canadian teams that the company has been selling rejected tires from the AMA series in Canada.

Bikes run in the Canadian Superbike Series are limited to 170 horsepower and are regularly checked on a mobile Dynojet dyno following qualifying and races. Crevier was docked 13 starting positions after qualifying at a previous round in Calgary, where his bike dynoed at 173.8 horsepower. Race organizers also use a radar gun to make sure top speeds reflect performance on the dyno.

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Old 07-26-2004, 11:20 AM   #15
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Default Re: sounds like a DUNLOP problem to me...

cept that everybody in ama has Dunlop contract except e bostrom, whose Ducati is sunk now that the 4-cyls. have got their act together...
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Old 07-26-2004, 11:45 AM   #16
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Default Re: There you go again

Your comment said nothing about the speeds of the track. You should learn to shut your mouth when you have no knowledge of the topic being discussed. I also don't care what Mat Mladin says- he's by no means an expert on tire technology any more than I am.



The other failures, like Hacking's this weekend at Mid-Ohio, happened in cool weather on a slower track than Daytona.
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Old 07-26-2004, 11:53 AM   #17
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Default Re: sounds like a DUNLOP problem to me...

Mladin's tire blew at Road Atlanta, not Barber.
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Old 07-26-2004, 12:00 PM   #18
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Default Re: Proposed 2005 AMA Superbike Rule Changes Announced

I would rather see all the factories compete in Superstock than Superbike. That way we could see who actually had the best production bike, and the racing would also be closer, which would make it more enjoyable to watch.
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Old 07-26-2004, 12:36 PM   #19
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Default Re: AMA Announces Proposed 2005 Superbike Rule Changes

It's all semantics really, but with the current set of rules it would make more sense to eliminate the factories from the supersport class, since there are fewer modifications allowed there and it is therefore a bit cheaper. Let the factories support the heavily modded bikes and leave the privateers ro run their show room specials.
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:13 PM   #20
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Default Re: There you go again Part 2

I doubt it. He knows a lot about riding fast, but I can guarantee you he does exactly none of the work on the bikes he races. Why would he need to know about tires?
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