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Old 04-05-2004, 05:32 AM   #1
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Default Re: Fontana Superbike Results



Congrats to Mladin, but man what a boring couple of races. AMA is suffering from some serious talent dilution, with so many top riders off to GP and the manufacturers spreading their resources across Supersport, Superstock, FX, and Superbike. Sure, every manufacturer gets their little moment of glory, but does anyone really cares that a Honda won FX when they're not even contesting Supersport?</p>



At least this year's GP has the potential to be one for the ages.</p>
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:34 AM   #2
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Default 30 RIDERS IN SUPERBIKE?

Wow, what happened from Daytona to Fontana. they institute a 120% rule or something?

Any way congrats to Mladin, Ebos, Miguel, Jake.

Now what is up with Ben Bostrom? I missed the race on TV so did he DNF the first race? Lousy start to a season for him. Race 2 is the first points he's got so far.
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:48 AM   #3
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Default Re: 30 RIDERS IN SUPERBIKE?

He took a turn a bit too tight and ground his footpeg into the curbing and levered his wheels off the ground. Crash. DNF.
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:30 AM   #4
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Default Re: AMA needs to reformat??

I agree completely.



SuperSport and SuperBike. No stupid tire mandates, no silly air restrictors. Since WSBK is dropping the ball here, it's AMA's chance to make this the junior MotoGP that it could be.



It's good to see privateers running with national TV time, but come on. It would be better to have some real factory teams contesting this thing. At least contesting for second place.
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:42 AM   #5
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Maybe we're just in a "building season" in superbike? Helped along by AMA not finalizing the spec until like 6 weeks before the season. As long as the Hondas get beat, I am satisfied. KUDOS to Jeremy Toye for almost breaking into the top ten on an R1 with lights taped over and stock exhaust. Shame on whoever bent over and allowed Honda to make Formula Xtreme a drawn-out bad commercial. What class will we create for the too-fat 1000RR next season? Who's taking me to South Africa for round one motogp? any volunteers?
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:47 AM   #6
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I couldn't agree more and Formula Extreme should be a complete no holds bare'd class that shows off all the latest greatest technology for that bike (CBR, ZX10, YZR-R1, GSXR1K).
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:49 AM   #7
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Default Re: AMA needs to reformat??

I agree 50%



I think they should drop Superbike and Formula Extreme and ONLY run Supersport and Superstock. (Heck the Superstock bikes are already as fast as the Superbikes. 80% of this year's Superbike field is made-up of the same guys/bikes from Superstock. All Superbike is doing is giving Suzuki, Honda and Ducati a place to pick-on non-factory teams.



Supersport and Superstock are the most fair rules you can have and they also tend to be the best racing to watch, because of the relitive closeness. -Sean
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:00 AM   #8
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Default Good grief I agree with KPaul!

You've been on your best behavior lately. 205 posts in the middleweight thread and no flame wars or Kerry links.



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Old 04-05-2004, 08:06 AM   #9
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I thought FX was designed to get an interesting mix of bikes (Buell, Ducati, etc.) and engine configurations. To see factory riders racing in this class instead of Supersport is just lame.
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:11 AM   #10
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No, what we need is a whole-scale cooperative re-alignment involving the national championships, World Superbike, MotoGP, and the manufacturers. The goal should be promoting logical levels of competition based on product offerings, realistic racing program outlays by mfgrs, and an understandable, linear ascension program for riders.



In other words, increased spectator/participant participation to aid increased motorcycle sales, less costly racing programs to increase likelihood of new mfgr participation and more broad participation by existing mfgrs, and highly defined processes regarding how to begin racing (for adults and MOST importantly, kids) so we can expand the talent base.



How do we do it?



AMA, BSB, and All-Japan need to drop superbike all together and elevate superstock to the premier class. This way the national championships can actually be what they should be, which is talent feeders for World Superbike and MotoGP.



World Supers could then be the premier production-based racing series it wants to be, with the event calendar lengthened, and touching all continents and major motorsports markets.



World Superbike would then be a perfect talent feeder for MotoGP, and this makes sense as the 125/250 2-stroke class machines have less than zero relevance to MotoGP now.



Let's make some rules, too. Like, if you win the national superstock championship, you are automatically promoted to World Supers, and YOU HAVE TO GO!!!!



None of this squatting in the minor leagues by people who are satisfied being big fish in a very small pond.

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