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obandoj · 03-03-2003, 04:11 AM

Thank God for Speed Channel! Now I can lay off the Prozac.

jamesohoh7 · 03-03-2003, 05:15 AM

Why are they not showing live coverage of the supercross? I thoroughly enjoyed it last year. It doesn't appear that there's any other racing going on at the same time, judging by the light schedule for Saturday.

Is it an attempt to get a wider audiance in prime-time? Hmmm.. well, I can see that logic I suppose... I just hate waiting is all.

-James

Z3Coupe · 03-03-2003, 06:11 AM

Thank god for Speed Channel? Hardly. It's just that they're the only ones that broadcast AMA racing... Let's recap what's bad about Speed Channel (still call 'em SpeedVision myself):

The interupted LIVE AMA 600 racing to broadcast a NECKCAR post-race wrap-up show. And the jackass announcer that told you what was happening was smirking the whole time.

They lied about broadcasting the full 24 hours of Le Mans last year. Early ads touted "full 24 hour flag-to-flag coverage" of the entire race. Then come June they dropped overnight coverage to show infomercials of all things. Certainly learning how to lose weight overnight is more important than living up to your promised flag-to-flag coverage!

SpeedVision has really gone down his since Fox took over. It's slowly but surely become the NECKCAR Channel. Probably 80% of airtime is devoted to that brainless drivel. SpeedVision used to be a haven for us non-NECKCAR and non-IRL fans. We could watch our enduracing racing, motorcycle racing, and all other kinds of non-oval racing. Now it's almost exclusively NECKCAR.

Which begs a point - why don't they just make a damned NECKCAR Channel and give all of us our beloved SpeedVision back? I'd bet the hillbillies would prefer to not have to share the station with non-NECKCAR crap...

Gah. Thank god for Speed Channel my ass.

Matthew

Buzglyd · 03-03-2003, 06:53 AM

I'm not a huge NASCAR fan but I can enjoy it for what it is. You'd better be thankful for it though because Speed's deal with Winston Cup most likely pays for its coverage of other events.

The ratings for most racing events are miniscule. You may be passionate about certain forms of racing but that doesn't mean the network is making a profit from it.

TV Stations don't exist to make us happy, they exist to sell ad time.

Z3Coupe · 03-03-2003, 07:43 AM

Why am I not surprised to see a Harley fan (based on your username and fake email addy) supporting NECKCAR?

SpeedVision was doing fine financially before it was bought by Fox and turned into NECKCAR-TV. Look up the facts.

And yes, while I realize that TV stations don't exist to please me, they exist to make a profit - that doesn't mean that you can't please your audience AND make a profit. Honestly, how many of the faithful SpeedVision viewers were happy to see it turn ito NECKCAR-TV?

Why not make everyone happy... Just have Fox make a NECKCAR-TV channel and let SpeedVision go back to covering real racing?

Matthew

KPaulCook · 03-03-2003, 07:52 AM

Make sure to get your friends to watch

SeanAlexander · 03-03-2003, 08:14 AM

That's an easy one Matthew. Because their total viewer base would be approximately the same, but their fixed expenses would be nearly double, if they chose to make two channels. It doesn't make business sense.

I loved Speedvision and am less satisfied with SPEED CHANNEL. However, if it went out of business I'd be seriously bummed about the loss of Motorcycle, Sportscar, WRC, F-1, BPTCCWSPBF (The artist formerly known as "CART"), and documentary coverage. In my opinion, NASCAR is lowest common denominator racing. However, I am in the minority and will be happy to take the coverage I can get, and tune out the NASCAR stuff, while they pay the bills.

SeanAlexander · 03-03-2003, 08:16 AM

I'm just guessing, but I'd say there is probably a conflict with ESPN2.

longride · 03-03-2003, 08:16 AM

Hey Buz, what's wrong with you? Starting fights with guys by mentioning the fact that NASCAR is only 150 times more popular than motorcycle racing. How dare SpeedChannel dare to show such an atrocity, while making millions in advertising, and drawing millions of viewers. Figured a Harley loving moron like you would say this stuff. Maybe the vibration and picking up all those parts got your mind twisted.

Buzglyd · 03-03-2003, 08:22 AM

Well thanks for the insult. Sorry to sting you with reality there. Gee, if you had bothered to read my first sentence I said I wasn't a huge fan of NASCAR, I just understand economics a little better than you perhaps.

For the record I own a sportbike too. (Ducati) I've never been to a NASCAR race but have attended serveral AMA superbike, CART and IMSA (back when there was an IMSA) events.

And you can stuff your perjorative redneck crap up your arse too. I live in San Diego.

Thank you Sean for doing a much better job of explaining this than I ever could.

03-03-2003, 04:11 AM	#1
obandoj Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 912	Re: AMA Racing Reminder Thank God for Speed Channel! Now I can lay off the Prozac.

03-03-2003, 05:15 AM	#2
jamesohoh7 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 211	Re: AMA Racing Reminder Why are they not showing live coverage of the supercross? I thoroughly enjoyed it last year. It doesn't appear that there's any other racing going on at the same time, judging by the light schedule for Saturday. Is it an attempt to get a wider audiance in prime-time? Hmmm.. well, I can see that logic I suppose... I just hate waiting is all. -James

03-03-2003, 06:11 AM	#3
Z3Coupe Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 63	Re: AMA Racing Reminder Thank god for Speed Channel? Hardly. It's just that they're the only ones that broadcast AMA racing... Let's recap what's bad about Speed Channel (still call 'em SpeedVision myself): The interupted LIVE AMA 600 racing to broadcast a NECKCAR post-race wrap-up show. And the jackass announcer that told you what was happening was smirking the whole time. They lied about broadcasting the full 24 hours of Le Mans last year. Early ads touted "full 24 hour flag-to-flag coverage" of the entire race. Then come June they dropped overnight coverage to show infomercials of all things. Certainly learning how to lose weight overnight is more important than living up to your promised flag-to-flag coverage! SpeedVision has really gone down his since Fox took over. It's slowly but surely become the NECKCAR Channel. Probably 80% of airtime is devoted to that brainless drivel. SpeedVision used to be a haven for us non-NECKCAR and non-IRL fans. We could watch our enduracing racing, motorcycle racing, and all other kinds of non-oval racing. Now it's almost exclusively NECKCAR. Which begs a point - why don't they just make a damned NECKCAR Channel and give all of us our beloved SpeedVision back? I'd bet the hillbillies would prefer to not have to share the station with non-NECKCAR crap... Gah. Thank god for Speed Channel my ass. Matthew

03-03-2003, 06:53 AM	#4
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Pass the Grey Poupon there bro I'm not a huge NASCAR fan but I can enjoy it for what it is. You'd better be thankful for it though because Speed's deal with Winston Cup most likely pays for its coverage of other events. The ratings for most racing events are miniscule. You may be passionate about certain forms of racing but that doesn't mean the network is making a profit from it. TV Stations don't exist to make us happy, they exist to sell ad time. __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

03-03-2003, 07:43 AM	#5
Z3Coupe Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 63	Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro Why am I not surprised to see a Harley fan (based on your username and fake email addy) supporting NECKCAR? SpeedVision was doing fine financially before it was bought by Fox and turned into NECKCAR-TV. Look up the facts. And yes, while I realize that TV stations don't exist to please me, they exist to make a profit - that doesn't mean that you can't please your audience AND make a profit. Honestly, how many of the faithful SpeedVision viewers were happy to see it turn ito NECKCAR-TV? Why not make everyone happy... Just have Fox make a NECKCAR-TV channel and let SpeedVision go back to covering real racing? Matthew

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03-03-2003, 07:52 AM	#6
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	Love it Make sure to get your friends to watch

03-03-2003, 08:14 AM	#7
SeanAlexander Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newport Coast, CA Posts: 1,538	Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro That's an easy one Matthew. Because their total viewer base would be approximately the same, but their fixed expenses would be nearly double, if they chose to make two channels. It doesn't make business sense. I loved Speedvision and am less satisfied with SPEED CHANNEL. However, if it went out of business I'd be seriously bummed about the loss of Motorcycle, Sportscar, WRC, F-1, BPTCCWSPBF (The artist formerly known as "CART"), and documentary coverage. In my opinion, NASCAR is lowest common denominator racing. However, I am in the minority and will be happy to take the coverage I can get, and tune out the NASCAR stuff, while they pay the bills. __________________ I thought I'd found true happiness in my personal bath body bar.... Then I tried DOVE! with 1/4 moisturizing cream!!!

03-03-2003, 08:16 AM	#8
SeanAlexander Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newport Coast, CA Posts: 1,538	Re: AMA Racing Reminder I'm just guessing, but I'd say there is probably a conflict with ESPN2. __________________ I thought I'd found true happiness in my personal bath body bar.... Then I tried DOVE! with 1/4 moisturizing cream!!!

03-03-2003, 08:16 AM	#9
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro Hey Buz, what's wrong with you? Starting fights with guys by mentioning the fact that NASCAR is only 150 times more popular than motorcycle racing. How dare SpeedChannel dare to show such an atrocity, while making millions in advertising, and drawing millions of viewers. Figured a Harley loving moron like you would say this stuff. Maybe the vibration and picking up all those parts got your mind twisted. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

03-03-2003, 08:22 AM	#10
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro Well thanks for the insult. Sorry to sting you with reality there. Gee, if you had bothered to read my first sentence I said I wasn't a huge fan of NASCAR, I just understand economics a little better than you perhaps. For the record I own a sportbike too. (Ducati) I've never been to a NASCAR race but have attended serveral AMA superbike, CART and IMSA (back when there was an IMSA) events. And you can stuff your perjorative redneck crap up your arse too. I live in San Diego. Thank you Sean for doing a much better job of explaining this than I ever could. __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."