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Old 02-05-2003, 11:31 AM   #71
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To protest the misappropriation of my twelve dollars.
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Old 02-05-2003, 11:38 AM   #72
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BTW, calling me an idiot just reinforces your position as one.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:07 PM   #73
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"I do hold prejudice against people who give themselves grandiose nicknames. I am probably not alone."



Why? IT'S A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



"My intellectual high horse is quite authentic, not at all faux."



Why, because you called me an idiot?



"On December 1st, MD ran this article that predicts Japanese factory supermotard models in the US in 2004. A month and a half later, AMA Pro Racing announced that they would be promoting a national supermoto championship with factory support from 7 manufacturers. That's insight. And it's only one example."



If you read the article, you will see that Dork Edge made the exact same prediction about Yamaha the year before, and was wrong (he even says so in the article!). I guess he figures that if he keeps making the prediction long enough, he will eventually be right.



Also, the series does not have ANY support from ANY of the Japanese manufacturers. In the AMA Pro Racing press release on the series, it doesn't say that it has support from "7 manufacturers". It doesn't list any number of manufacturers supporting the series, or who is supporting it. It doesn't even say what kind of bike is going to be run in the series, or what the format for the series is going to be.



Aside from all that, there already is a race series for this kind of bike, run by Cycle World's Don Canet (two, actually, if you count short track, which uses a nearly identical bike, just run on dirt.) Suzuki already has a factory team in short track, so "predicting" that the Japanese would have a bike similar to this in the future is hardly insight.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:09 PM   #74
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I think they are closer to the "Weekly World News" than the National Enquirer, which occasionally is correct.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:10 PM   #75
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Seen it. I would subscribe to MCN if it didn't cost $350 per year.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:43 PM   #76
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BTW, here's a short list of the models MD "predicted" would appear, but didn't.



Year 2000:

Suzuki RM400

VR1000-Engined Buell Sportbike

V-Twin V-max

2000cc V-max

Brand New 2001 Kaw. ZX-7R

Honda XR400 replacement



Year 2001:

Brand New Kaw. ZX-7R

New V-Max

SV750

VTX800 naked bike

CBR1300XX

Aprilia RSV750

Triumph TT750

Suzuki RM400



Year 2002:

Suzuki RM400

2000cc V-max

Hayabusa Standard

Suzuki RM460

Kawasaki KX400

Yamaha 4-stroke YZ80

Honda V-5 streetbike

New CBR1100XX

Suzuki RM450 (again)

Honda CBR1000

Yamaha 900cc YZF-R1

Aprilia RSV750

New Triumph Trophy 955 and 1273

Six Cylinder Honda ST1500

Brand New Kawasaki ZX-9R

Suzuki Performance Cruiser

Suzuki RM450 (again)



Year 2003:

V-max

Kawasaki ZX-10R

Triumph Daytona 1300

Triumph Trophy 1300

V-max (again)



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Old 02-05-2003, 01:01 PM   #77
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I got my AMA supermoto championship information from Andy Leisner, VP of AMA Pro Racing, in an e-mail he sent to me on the 24th of January.



Now that I check the e-mail, I see I was misleading. There are only 6 manufacturers providing contingency money, out of 9 manufacturers with eligible machines.



Short track bikes make extremely crappy supermotos. Take a look at the front brake on a short track bike. Whoops! It doesn't have one! Take a look at a supermoto. Biggest damn rotor you ever saw. The 18 inch wheels on a short tracker don't take any kind of street rubber I've ever seen.



You need to go soak your head.
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Old 02-05-2003, 01:49 PM   #78
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" got my AMA supermoto championship information from Andy Leisner, VP of AMA Pro Racing, in an e-mail he sent to me on the 24th of January."



Post the email. I'd love to see it.



"Now that I check the e-mail, I see I was misleading. There are only 6 manufacturers providing contingency money, out of 9 manufacturers with eligible machines."



Which nine manufacturers have elegible machines?



Most of the flat track bikes running nowadays are MX/off-road bikes (YZ450F, CRF450, DR-Z400). They're easily converted back to supermotards, especially with a spare set of 17-inch wheels. The hardest thing about setting up a supermotard bike from a standard MX bike is the suspension, not the wheel swap. Therefore, a supermotard bike would make an excellent short-tracker with a simple wheel swap.



BTW, flat track bikes run 19-inch wheels, not 18-inch.



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Old 02-05-2003, 02:16 PM   #79
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By gawd, that sounds like a great source for accurate information!



As for their typical 2-3 paragraph riding impressions, I'll wait, if necessary for JohnnyB or Sean or someone like that to do a real riding impression and actually tell me something about what the effin bike really is like. Much better information, communicated in a much more intertaining fashion.



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Old 02-05-2003, 02:24 PM   #80
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Oh yeah, and there are a bunch of bikes with 18" wheels our there, all apparently running on street rubber. Everything from RD350s, BMWs (up till very recently), etc. Last time I checked, virtually every motorcycle tire manufacturer in business makes a range of sizes and models of street rubber.



Re short-track/supermoto crossover, I know of several guys who do just what you suggest.



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